I finally made it to the ultimate pickup game chikuru was telling me about. I learned that there is a large difference in the style of play of real ultimate vs. durango. Durango is the style of ultimate I have been playing at work. The main difference is that you can switch sides you are going to score on at anytime in durango. It makes the defensive strategy different. It didn't take me too long to adjust, and I actually managed to make some good plays. I also got to see livingdeb there.